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Post by Jay2x on Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:52 am

eh try ko itong bagong category .dto ko nlang lagay ehhe kung tama po paglagyan ehe. kaya po eto cnc na , critics lang pala ehe
render po ito nung akoy chikiting nung 3rd year .. latex paint po tsaka pinicturan ko tsaka konting PS sa bg
unang sabak sa PS eh..
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salamat sa critiko . peace man Wink etoh naaaaaa
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Post by bokkins on Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:02 am

irerender mo ba ulit to bro? walang kwenta ang comment dito pag wala ka naman gagawin. sayang lang ang oras. Smile
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Post by Jay2x on Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:05 am

bokkins wrote:irerender mo ba ulit to bro? walang kwenta ang comment dito pag wala ka naman gagawin. sayang lang ang oras. Smile

opo master bokks .gusto ko kasing matuto ng photo manipulation ba o..basta photo editting tsaka manual rendering po ..hmm kung ok lang po yan .. kung dpo bagay sa ICU ok lang po kung malipat.. eh Smile
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Post by jenaro on Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:10 am

ok lang yan sir...welcome sa cgpinoy...u need to use 3d modeling and rendering software...nice manual drawing 2thumbsup
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Post by bokkins on Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:44 am

ah ok cge, simulan na natin. hehe. first of all, mali ang perspective mo sa roof ng rightmost building mo. dapat gamitan mo ng guidelines pag ngmamanual ka. ang isang style na ginagamit dun sa ofc na pinasukan ko dati is, gumagawa sila ng boxes to the size of the building, tapos nila ng desired camera angle. then render na parang linya lang and print, after that, itrace un sa tracing paper and dats it. exacto na ang perspective mo.

pag dating naman sa photoshop, kailangan mo gamit ng curves para gumanda ang contrast mo sa image. gumawa ako ng sample here. then pwede mo na iretouch sa gusto mong mangyari. so far un lang ang comment ko. more on "how to do it right" rather than fixing the image(wala na tayong magagawa dito). para next time, makuha mo kagad ang tamang timpla. good luck! Smile

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Post by AUSTRIA on Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:13 am

Tama k sir boks wla kwenta ang furum n to kung mag comments lng tyo dpat may gawin k rin...Hehehe nku dagdag n nmn s job m to bro hehehe joke...aniwe nice try bro... Suggestion k nmn kung titirahin m to s Pshop mlaki p pag asa nito bro...Try m select by colors then plitan m n lng..bout s shadow nmn same color din at laruin m n lng s conrast and shadow....sna mkatulong

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Post by Guest on Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:55 am

i can tell you are very eager to learn and i admire you for that bro... i am just confused what do you want to learn first? it is a common mistake for anyone na gusto lahat matutunan without focusing first on one field or area. you mentioned you want to learn photo editing/manipulation then you mentioned also manual rendering.

honestly speaking, the image you posted requires a lot of fixing (not a problem kasi mukha ka namang energetic) and i would like to start sa vanishing point and horizon line bro. fix it first bro. select one object and let the other objects follow its vanishing points. hope makatulong

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Post by Butz_Arki on Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:25 pm

this is great step bro..ngayun i think magaling kana..
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Post by Jay2x on Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:46 pm

bokkins wrote:ah ok cge, simulan na natin. hehe. first of all, mali ang perspective mo sa roof ng rightmost building mo. dapat gamitan mo ng guidelines pag ngmamanual ka. ang isang style na ginagamit dun sa ofc na pinasukan ko dati is, gumagawa sila ng boxes to the size of the building, tapos nila ng desired camera angle. then render na parang linya lang and print, after that, itrace un sa tracing paper and dats it. exacto na ang perspective mo.

pag dating naman sa photoshop, kailangan mo gamit ng curves para gumanda ang contrast mo sa image. gumawa ako ng sample here. then pwede mo na iretouch sa gusto mong mangyari. so far un lang ang comment ko. more on "how to do it right" rather than fixing the image(wala na tayong magagawa dito). para next time, makuha mo kagad ang tamang timpla. good luck! Smile

salamat sir bokkins ,,oo nga po yan ang mgandang idea n naibigay niyo maga2mit kopo yan sa ngayun .mgttrace po ako ng mgandang angle sa perspc tpos mabilisang render manual..
balak kopo sanang gawing matte painting kaso mga skew,trasnform tapos blending option palang alam ko. e ng sasanay pa ako sa mga layering po... kaya post npo iba diyan sa 3d nman eheh .. pra mkapagpost din..set tayo ng fire eheh hindi flame ah...
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Post by Jay2x on Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:51 pm

Butz_Arki wrote:this is great step bro..ngayun i think magaling kana..

opo sir buts..kaya post kana rin sa 3d ..pag nkagawa ako post din ako sa 3d section ng category dito.. mgandang idea ginawa ni sir bokkins .pra masalang ang mga likha natin . dito dapat puro mga kapangitan lang dapat ang naki2ta walang purihan eheh kaya post na tayo lahat Wink
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Post by Jay2x on Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:56 pm

kietsmark wrote:i can tell you are very eager to learn and i admire you for that bro... i am just confused what do you want to learn first? it is a common mistake for anyone na gusto lahat matutunan without focusing first on one field or area. you mentioned you want to learn photo editing/manipulation then you mentioned also manual rendering.

honestly speaking, the image you posted requires a lot of fixing (not a problem kasi mukha ka namang energetic) and i would like to start sa vanishing point and horizon line bro. fix it first bro. select one object and let the other objects follow its vanishing points. hope makatulong

opo dami pa pwede i fixed dyan .pwede din po kasing tirahin ang mismong design dito sa section nato. hopefully sa 3d section mas marami pang magpost na talagang kinakailangan ng critics pra mabuo ang idea nila.
i want to learn first of course is manual then photo editting or matte painting unang entry ko kasi sa photoshop sa mga layering at layer blending. la kasi ako mkita tutorial sa matte paiting e. distorted nga po siya ehe ganyan talaga ako mg persp puro champective lagi ang output..
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Post by Jay2x on Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:00 pm

jenaro wrote:ok lang yan sir...welcome sa cgpinoy...u need to use 3d modeling and rendering software...nice manual drawing 2thumbsup

im exited to post some of my works sa 3d ICU po. kaw din lagay mo ang sayo npansin ko mga works mo..dapat dito sila eheh peace man

AUSTRIA wrote:Tama k sir boks wla kwenta ang furum n to kung mag comments lng tyo dpat may gawin k rin...Hehehe nku dagdag n nmn s job m to bro hehehe joke...aniwe nice try bro... Suggestion k nmn kung titirahin m to s Pshop mlaki p pag asa nito bro...Try m select by colors then plitan m n lng..bout s shadow nmn same color din at laruin m n lng s conrast and shadow....sna mkatulong

oo nga po ung contrast .. post ka narin sa 3d ICU sir .eheh pra tirahin na
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Post by eyecon01 on Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:05 pm

Bro, if you want this to be like mattepainting quality, then I guess you need to take bokkins advice. To start with I have a few comments kung ok lng bro.

1. Medyo tabingi nga yung perspective lines mu bro. You have mulitple vanishing points and most of them don't seem to end up in the horizon line.

2. Medyo mahina po yung distinction ng shades and shadows po. You have to define kung saan po yung shade and ang shadow para makita mu yung pagka 3d ng object. Defining the shadow will solve this.

So far bro the best thing to do is get some reference images para at least makita mu kung anung effect or perpective you want and base your work there. The best practice is find real images and not renders.

Hope this helpS!
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Post by celes on Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:37 pm

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1. sky is a bit out of place
2. a lot of lines do not converge properly. this is pretty basic in manual rendering and you should concentrate on making sure the base plate is properly sketched first before you do any post editing.
3. supporting elements such as landscaping and entourage are both lacking and missing.
4. adjacent buildings are very haphazardly placed.

in general sir, this render fails in almost all aspects of a composition - perspective, textures, shading, materials. a lot needs to be tweaked in this image. pero ive seen your 3d renderings in the gallery, why not just focus on the 3d outputs rather than go back to this level?
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Post by Guest on Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:36 pm

Jay2x wrote:distorted nga po siya ehe ganyan talaga ako mg persp puro champective lagi ang output..

bro no harms meant ha... kung sa una alam mo na na distorted pala ung output why not fixed it? and kahit bro tsampective kayang-kayang pagmukhaing "by the book". i guess it goes beyond the techniques and skills... it is the personality what matters most. kung paano ung mind set sa paggawa and hindi ung pwede na yan attitude. even we give comments and suggestions sa design it will not matter kasi presentation gives life to the design.

and one more thing... sir mushroom is 100% right. why going back to this work of yours during your college years ? i am sure napakarami mo ng development from that time till now kaya it will be more nicer if you will post your recent works and para makatulong naman kami sa abot ng aming makakaya bro.

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Post by Jay2x on Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:27 am

mushroom wrote:

1. sky is a bit out of place
2. a lot of lines do not converge properly. this is pretty basic in manual rendering and you should concentrate on making sure the base plate is properly sketched first before you do any post editing.
3. supporting elements such as landscaping and entourage are both lacking and missing.
4. adjacent buildings are very haphazardly placed.

in general sir, this render fails in almost all aspects of a composition - perspective, textures, shading, materials. a lot needs to be tweaked in this image. pero ive seen your 3d renderings in the gallery, why not just focus on the 3d outputs rather than go back to this level?

notes taken sir mushroom..
personal reason po kasi kaya gusto ko mpausayan ang rendering ko in manual .. ito lang kasi ang matino na narender ko sa manual
promise sir and that's true.
ang gusto kopo kasi prang transition yung gagawin ko .. from manual rendering to matte painting sana..
post kana sir hehe peace man

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Jay2x wrote:distorted nga po siya ehe ganyan talaga ako mg persp puro champective lagi ang output..

bro no harms meant ha... kung sa una alam mo na na distorted pala ung output why not fixed it? and kahit bro tsampective kayang-kayang pagmukhaing "by the book". i guess it goes beyond the techniques and skills... it is the personality what matters most. kung paano ung mind set sa paggawa and hindi ung pwede na yan attitude. even we give comments and suggestions sa design it will not matter kasi presentation gives life to the design.

and one more thing... sir mushroom is 100% right. why going back to this work of yours during your college years ? i am sure napakarami mo ng development from that time till now kaya it will be more nicer if you will post your recent works and para makatulong naman kami sa abot ng aming makakaya bro.

oo nga po sir keit.. notes taken.. still nag aaral pa po ako sa skul...student pa po
dko po m fixed sa ps yung horizon sir hehe..
still trying pa .. ma2fi2xed ko yan next time sir as matte painting using mga brushes .
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Post by Muggz on Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:54 am

malaki pa po i gaganda nyan kahit sa ps,,,at kaya din mai correct yun roof,,,me nag yaring ganyan narin saken bro,,,mas malupet ka pa nga e,,latex ha,, peace man
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Post by Jay2x on Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:48 am

Muggz wrote:malaki pa po i gaganda nyan kahit sa ps,,,at kaya din mai correct yun roof,,,me nag yaring ganyan narin saken bro,,,mas malupet ka pa nga e,,latex ha,, peace man

ok . oo nga bro.. kaya dito kona muna pinost sa others ehe yung level ko kasi pang misc,others palang dapat e hehe kaya dito nalang ako magpos2t palagi sa ICU
kaw din sir
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