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Post by iandguzmn on Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:07 am

Mga master tanong ko lang po.. ok lang po ba ang recessed pin light sa concrete ceiling?Hindi na po kasi ako maglalagay ng Gypsum board ceiling para makatipid. thanks..
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Post by kurdaps! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:14 am

iandguzmn wrote:Mga master tanong ko lang po.. ok lang po ba ang recessed pin light sa concrete ceiling?Hindi na po kasi ako maglalagay ng Gypsum board ceiling para makatipid. thanks..
pin light sa concrete ceiling ???  

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Post by JVT_Ltd on Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:05 am

sobra na ata sa pagtitipid yan ah... hihihi...peace man
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Post by bench on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:09 am

Bakit naman naka-recessed kung pwede ka naman gumamit ng track lighting fixtures. makakatipid ka nga sa gypsum ceiling board, kaso talo ka naman sa kapal ng ceiling na hahabolin mo para sa height ng housing ng pin lights.
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Post by qcksilver on Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:00 am

pwedi ka naman gumamit ng ceiling mounted lights sir
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Post by iandguzmn on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:51 pm

May nakita na kasi ako dati na actual mga master.. pero ito may nakita ako sa google..

Yong thickness ng slab is 150mm.

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Post by Zyl on Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:07 am

ito din gusto ko itanong. if pwede ba mag lagay ng pinlights sa concrete slab.

naka slotted nba ang concrete slab na yan?

or my equipment na bumutas ng slab.  Shocked
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Post by Norman on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:07 am

parang gypsum board pa rin ata yung nasa sample...pero in case nga na sa slab mo gagawin tanong mo kay pareng engineer muna yan kasi kailangan mo din e ready yung runway mo ng electrical sa loob ng slab bago sila magbuhos. 150 thick medyo manipis yun kung sakali maglalagay ka nga ng recessed. IMHO lang bro.
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Post by iandguzmn on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:21 am

Norman wrote:parang gypsum board pa rin ata yung nasa sample...pero in case nga na sa slab mo gagawin tanong mo kay pareng engineer muna yan kasi kailangan mo din e ready yung runway mo ng electrical sa loob ng slab bago sila magbuhos. 150 thick medyo manipis yun kung sakali maglalagay ka nga ng recessed. IMHO lang bro.
 thanks! anyway sir, anong magandang pinlight para sa bedroom at living room? saka may idea po ba kayo kung ano ang ht/depth ng pin light? kung less than 150mm mas maganda para di tagos sa taas.


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Post by hedgedread on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:38 am

Zyl wrote:ito din gusto ko itanong. if pwede ba mag lagay ng pinlights sa concrete slab.

naka slotted nba ang concrete slab na yan?

or my equipment na bumutas ng slab.  Shocked
Yup, meron equipment na pambutas ng slab. If im not mistaken coring machine ang tawag dun, usually hilti ang brand.
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Post by Norman on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:51 am

iandguzmn wrote:
Norman wrote:parang gypsum board pa rin ata yung nasa sample...pero in case nga na sa slab mo gagawin tanong mo kay pareng engineer muna yan kasi kailangan mo din e ready yung runway mo ng electrical sa loob ng slab bago sila magbuhos. 150 thick medyo manipis yun kung sakali maglalagay ka nga ng recessed. IMHO lang bro.
 thanks! anyway sir, anong magandang pinlight para sa bedroom at living room? saka may idea po ba kayo kung ano ang ht/depth ng pin light? kung less than 150mm mas maganda para di tagos sa taas.
di kita mabigyan ng specific na depth ng pin light though maliit lang yan let say 50mm kung recessed nga sya..and then kung ako tatanungin mo personally wag ka ng mag pinlight kasi ang dami mong bubutasin sa slab mo at humina pa strength nyan...may magaganda namang ilaw na naka exposed sa slab.

unless di pa sya nabubuhusan saka mo discuss sa engineer kung saan ang lighting layout mo para ma advise nya san dapat makapal ang slab then you can run your wirings.
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Post by Rheinfell on Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:06 am

sa nakikita ko hindi yan reinf. conc. slab sir kundi fibrous plasterboard (Fibrous Plasterboard is made of gypsum plaster reinforced with strands of fibreglass evenly distributed thoughout, approximately 3% of its mass or at the ratio of 365 grams per m² and with the density of the board between 900 to 1000kg/m³.  Its does not contain asbestos or other inorganic fibre. Fibrous Plasterboard Ceiling have been widely used by Architect and builder because of its flexibility of moulding into various shapes and sizes accordingly . Being and non-combustible, Fibrous Plasterboard combines superb surface quality with the in-built strength of fibre-glass reinforcement.) then textured painted finish yan. widely used here in the middleast ( me in saudi arabia) for interior decoration. as well as cornice & freeze... & decorative elements... Smile my share
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Post by iandguzmn on Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:34 pm

salamat sir sa inyong mga advise.. actually di pa sya nabubuhusan so my time pa ako magdecide kung recessed or mounted ang gagamitin..
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Post by bench on Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:52 pm

Rheinfell wrote:sa nakikita ko hindi yan reinf. conc. slab sir kundi fibrous plasterboard (Fibrous Plasterboard is made of gypsum plaster reinforced with strands of fibreglass evenly distributed thoughout, approximately 3% of its mass or at the ratio of 365 grams per m² and with the density of the board between 900 to 1000kg/m³.  Its does not contain asbestos or other inorganic fibre. Fibrous Plasterboard Ceiling have been widely used by Architect and builder because of its flexibility of moulding into various shapes and sizes accordingly . Being and non-combustible, Fibrous Plasterboard combines superb surface quality with the in-built strength of fibre-glass reinforcement.) then textured painted finish yan. widely used here in the middleast ( me in saudi arabia) for interior decoration. as well as cornice & freeze... & decorative elements... Smilemy share
He was pertaining to a CONCRETE CEILING. He may never ask na siguro kung alam niyang fibrous plasterboard ito bro. In fact they are planning to pour the Cement on it kaso nagiisip pa ng magandang idea. In fact gusto nya makatipid, wherein sa fibrous plasterboard sa tingin ko magastos ito. Just my thought.
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Post by bench on Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:15 pm

Pwedeng-pwede bro. Ang tanong lang sigurado ka bang mas makakatipid ka kapag naka-recessed sa ceiling ang lightings mo or mas doble pa ang gastos dito.
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Post by iandguzmn on Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:36 am

bench wrote:Pwedeng-pwede bro. Ang tanong lang sigurado ka bang mas makakatipid ka kapag naka-recessed sa ceiling ang lightings mo or mas doble pa ang gastos dito.
Sa tingin ko makakatipid kung ikukumpara ko sa gypsum ceiling..Kasi wala ng material+labour ng ceiling. Kung sa recessed concrete naman before casting iset na yong mga holes. Yong pagset ng holes wala naman sigurong additional labour cost kasi part na yon ng mason/carpenter. Pero sa opinion nyo sir? makakatipid ba o hindi?
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Post by bench on Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:32 am

iandguzmn wrote:
bench wrote:Pwedeng-pwede bro. Ang tanong lang sigurado ka bang mas makakatipid ka kapag naka-recessed sa ceiling ang lightings mo or mas doble pa ang gastos dito.
Sa tingin ko makakatipid kung ikukumpara ko sa gypsum ceiling..Kasi wala ng material+labour ng ceiling. Kung sa recessed concrete naman before casting iset na yong mga holes. Yong pagset ng holes wala naman sigurong additional labour cost kasi part na yon ng mason/carpenter. Pero sa opinion nyo sir? makakatipid ba o hindi?
Laking tipid bro. regarding sa electrical, part na rin ng scope of work nila yon. Kailangan nga lang mas pulido ang pagkaka-plaster and paint nito. Good luck bro.
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